For anyone who can be interested in:

Yesterday I read a dutch article (yeah, I can read dutch though I'm italian!! how l33t :)) about this crew of guys who I knew personally in that period. They were friends of the famous T0rn (t0rnkit...you know that?) and got busted the same period, during the same operation (Scotland Yard + Dutch Police).

Now the trial is beginning and they have many charges for Ddos, CC and Intrusion in remote systems.

If anyone is interested in reading more, I have the official PDF of the Dutch Police. It is in Dutch of course. I dunno dutch but it looks quite similar to german, which I know...

Anyway, the crew was roxing on IRCnet as mostly of them. Now they risks severe judgements as they caused many Euros of damage.

Some nickname for you:

M4ce, |mike|, Sarge, Skylimit, Orangehaw, Stamp, Kruimel and others...

Peace

Yog

cool, another kiddie crew gone

Well..... I know most of these guys and they were young boys but did not have that "kiddo mentality" too much.

Infact they are very skilled programmers and they contributed to the making of T0rnkit which makes them NOT kiddos (just my personal opinion).

I agree that ddoding websites is not really smart and it sounds a bit childish but.... hell... who wasn't a child?! They got many skills btw and still someone of them is roxing around with leet codes.

I'm really sad about this fact.... they were friends...and they were a peaceful crew... no ircwar or stuff.... just a bit childish sometimes but once again, very skilled programmers. Some of them is still now personally in contact with the guys of TESO and co-operate them in security releases.

Beside, packeting is one of the lamest thing in the world....so I can't blame you for saying they are kiddos! :)

Peace and Respect

Yog

there is something bad about them in my mind I cant remember . just the title of t0rn with a bad background anyway !
and remember if a hacker got busted it doesnt mean he is getting busted cause of his knowledge he is getting busted cause of misusing his knowledge !

You're right about the misuse of knowledges! They are very skilled but indeed they could have done something more...constructive....

I dunno why you got bad feelings about that name. They weren't an ircwar crew but they did fought back when needed.

Anyway, I cannot judge because I'm involved sentimentally and I wouldn't be fair nor impartial! :)

If you want to talk with them, many of the old XP glories are back to IRCnet because of this trial. I bet you can guess the channel's name...eheheheheh. #xp

I'll be there of course. :)

I must admit it is very nice to speak with you, wisdom boy!! ehehehh

Ciao

Yog

I never give idea about somebody's knowledge until I see something from him/her . ok I will join that channel some days . and tnx for your opinion about me :) , I see all of my favorable nicks are being used :P BSDi will do :D

i know tornkit and its good... good work!

Jup i know its good work